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fan_eunice) wrote2007-11-27 01:42 am
fan_eunice) wrote2007-11-27 01:42 am
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You know what happens when you reflexively click on a link, even though it says there are spoilers and you like to avoid spoilers, and your brain goes "WAIT" just a second too late and you see the picture, and then you can't unsee it? You are officially spoiled. This is no one's fault but my own. On the plus side I actually get to click on the cut tags regarding said spoiler, and hey...why not have one of my own
Note, I remain unspoiled about almost everything else except that one alien in that other picture, and prefer to stay that way so please to not be bringing up any other spoilers outside this one.
So, I am having two reactions to Rose being back for an episode. The first is in terms of fandom and it goes something like this: Oh, fuck me sideways goddamnit. Wasn't I just being all hopeful that fandom would calm down a bit? That was rather silly of me. I'd like to think it's not going to get seriously ugly in the upcoming months, but I bet it will. And...I just don't have the patience. This is what I dislike most about the idea of Rose being back at all, and why I wish they had not gone there...that her very presence in the discussion so often turns it toxic. And I'm certainly not immune. I've just managed to start digging my Rose love back out from under the irritation and annoyance with certain fannish interpretations of Rose and a particular 'ship. And it was good! I don't want to go back to the place where just hearing her name makes me cringe and want to slap someone. I like Rose. I hate Fandom on Rose. I have big fears that by the time this episode airs, no matter what is in it, that I'll be so annoyed that the actual context won't even matter. I'm going to do my best to avoid any and all speculative discussion on the matter like the plague on the principle that if I don't see the wank, it's not happening. Complete blinders are impossible without leaving the fandom entirely, though, and that worries me. It also worries me that I get curious, and it is likely I'll end up following at least some of the conversations anyway (which will totally be my own fault).
The second reaction is to what might happen on the show itself. And that is...cautiously hopeful. I want it canon that Rose picked herself up off that beach and went on to be awesome and fight aliens with her family at her back. I want to see her happy and confident and moved on. I want an acknowledgement that life goes on, and that this is not a bad thing. Not for Rose in her new life, and not for the Doctor with his new awesome companions and adventures to be had, and certainly not for us because we get all of that. If I can have anything that even remotely reflects that I will actually squee. If Rose can be placed in the context of being a companion, with a life beyond the two years she had with us, one of so many that we've loved and lost. Yes, please. I've never hated the end of Doomsday, because endings hurt. I have, however, wished that they'd made it clearer that when things end, other things begin, and that Rose was always going to be just fine. The idea of having that on screen is...very, very tempting. And yes, I know I may not get it. There could be a reamping of angst and woe that boosts the 4Evah!! claims, and causes me to bash my head into the nearest wall repeatedly. I'd like to think there won't be. Mostly because...what would be the point? And there's the other option of an alternate timeline, or a dream, or alien who just looks like Rose, or whatever. Which would be fine, I guess. I can't see being actively irritated by them anyway, just slightly puzzled as to why Rose needs to be there at all.
So, yeah. I'm kind of actively dreading fandom right now. It's weird. I'm used to reaching a point where a show irritates me and makes me unhappy enough that I break up with it. I'm on the flip side here, the show, and it's entire universe from Hartnell to present is making me ridiculously happy with all it's shiny toys, and even though sometimes it drives me a bit batty, I love it so. It's fandom I keep wanting to break up with. But I don't want to. I want to share. I dunno. Maybe if it does start getting really nasty, I'll just break up with fandom as it relates to New Who and watch that entirely in my little bubble, and pretend that only Old Skool exists fannishly? *sigh*
Note, I remain unspoiled about almost everything else except that one alien in that other picture, and prefer to stay that way so please to not be bringing up any other spoilers outside this one.
So, I am having two reactions to Rose being back for an episode. The first is in terms of fandom and it goes something like this: Oh, fuck me sideways goddamnit. Wasn't I just being all hopeful that fandom would calm down a bit? That was rather silly of me. I'd like to think it's not going to get seriously ugly in the upcoming months, but I bet it will. And...I just don't have the patience. This is what I dislike most about the idea of Rose being back at all, and why I wish they had not gone there...that her very presence in the discussion so often turns it toxic. And I'm certainly not immune. I've just managed to start digging my Rose love back out from under the irritation and annoyance with certain fannish interpretations of Rose and a particular 'ship. And it was good! I don't want to go back to the place where just hearing her name makes me cringe and want to slap someone. I like Rose. I hate Fandom on Rose. I have big fears that by the time this episode airs, no matter what is in it, that I'll be so annoyed that the actual context won't even matter. I'm going to do my best to avoid any and all speculative discussion on the matter like the plague on the principle that if I don't see the wank, it's not happening. Complete blinders are impossible without leaving the fandom entirely, though, and that worries me. It also worries me that I get curious, and it is likely I'll end up following at least some of the conversations anyway (which will totally be my own fault).
The second reaction is to what might happen on the show itself. And that is...cautiously hopeful. I want it canon that Rose picked herself up off that beach and went on to be awesome and fight aliens with her family at her back. I want to see her happy and confident and moved on. I want an acknowledgement that life goes on, and that this is not a bad thing. Not for Rose in her new life, and not for the Doctor with his new awesome companions and adventures to be had, and certainly not for us because we get all of that. If I can have anything that even remotely reflects that I will actually squee. If Rose can be placed in the context of being a companion, with a life beyond the two years she had with us, one of so many that we've loved and lost. Yes, please. I've never hated the end of Doomsday, because endings hurt. I have, however, wished that they'd made it clearer that when things end, other things begin, and that Rose was always going to be just fine. The idea of having that on screen is...very, very tempting. And yes, I know I may not get it. There could be a reamping of angst and woe that boosts the 4Evah!! claims, and causes me to bash my head into the nearest wall repeatedly. I'd like to think there won't be. Mostly because...what would be the point? And there's the other option of an alternate timeline, or a dream, or alien who just looks like Rose, or whatever. Which would be fine, I guess. I can't see being actively irritated by them anyway, just slightly puzzled as to why Rose needs to be there at all.
So, yeah. I'm kind of actively dreading fandom right now. It's weird. I'm used to reaching a point where a show irritates me and makes me unhappy enough that I break up with it. I'm on the flip side here, the show, and it's entire universe from Hartnell to present is making me ridiculously happy with all it's shiny toys, and even though sometimes it drives me a bit batty, I love it so. It's fandom I keep wanting to break up with. But I don't want to. I want to share. I dunno. Maybe if it does start getting really nasty, I'll just break up with fandom as it relates to New Who and watch that entirely in my little bubble, and pretend that only Old Skool exists fannishly? *sigh*